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today’s topic:
all-powerful characters
Ever since I started this fantasy section on my blog, I have wanted to write discussions and this is the moment it is actually happening. Huzzah! I wanted to discuss the most powerful fantasy characters and think about their role and restraints in storytelling.
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Do you like power?
What does power mean?
What is the first character that comes to mind when I say all-powerful characters?
A wise king? A cruel king? A God?
Power can be measured in very different ways and is a relative word. Someone with the most power in one room can be faced with more powerful people in another room, or with a different kind of power they struggle to stand against. The reality of power is not quantifiable, but in today’s post, I am narrowing my view to solely focus on physical power in fantasy books.
I shall discuss the strengths and weaknesses of physically powerful characters, professionally ignoring the nuances of different kinds of power. I love seeing them in fantasy, nothing more scary than a politically powerful person, but this is not what I shall be talking about today. You’ve been warned.
Moving on… this next question is very important. Do physically powerful characters have any other purpose than peacocking their power in stories?
I will start this discussion very easily, with a direct answer, NO. Powerful characters are there to show their power, or else why would they have it? You can argue they are incapable of being main characters as they cannot face challenges and any conflict is ultimately resolved by them being the most powerful. This limits the plot and climax. The fights are essentially dick-measuring contests for power. Everyone has seen it and apart from the few cinematic scenes, it really is pointless and represents the worst way fantasy can be reduced to an action, and action only.
But, I love them.
Therefore, here is my case for why they still have their role in fantasy stories.
Wait, you fool, they can actually be the main character…
Comics and anime are the main formats that pop up when discussing powerful characters. Due to the mass commercialisation of comic characters in the West being basic, the first character that comes to mind is Superman.
Superman is the classic embodiment of strength and power. His body is essentially indestructible. He is strong. He is fast. He can flyyy. I mean, what can’t he do? This begs the question, what are his challenges? Hence the creation of Kryptonite which emits a unique, poisonous radiation that can weaken and even kill Kryptonians. He needed a weakness to become a captivating character. Let’s throw a rock at him.
However, any fan of Smallville will tell you that Kryptonite is annoying. It causes problems and every time it pops up, Clark is on his knees. The solution is another person throwing the rocks away so Clark can save the day. It was simply a roadblock for the sake of a delay, as otherwise, he would save the day easily. It gets to the point of being lazy writing. It is not even a challenge he can improve upon over time as he can’t gain immunity. It is necessary but a ball ache all the same. Yet I will add a reminder, specific to superheroes. They are written for a young audience but with the mass success they accumulated, adults add complaints as if they are the intended audience. Sometimes the simplistic route is intentional for the young audience.
Alas, I love Smallville and it illustrated how to handle such a powerful main character with nuance and intrigue. The strength of Smallville was the emotions it was able to showcase including those capturing what it must be like to be the most powerful person on a planet. The isolation of keeping a secret, learning who he can trust, the survival of the destruction of his planet, the lack of knowledge of his own ability and the struggle of not being able to save everyone. It was by far the most interesting part of his characters and those challenges weren’t so easily overcome. It goes to show you can be the most powerful person on earth and it will be the small human moments that are most worth your time.
The final note for the Super-Super-lad. He was good. Any discussion of power is never really about the amount of power one person has, but what you do with the power you possess. Most superheroes are perhaps not the most remarkable execution of this theme, capturing a clear-cut sense of justice for kids to look up to. Superman was a good one. His morals are as indestructible as himself. That’s why he was the main character. It is an idealistic view of power but sometimes it is comforting to experience this sense of pure righteousness and justice, a fun dream.
In contrast to the moral heroes I have just spoken about, it only seems fair I talk about The Boys. This comic series is intended for adults and carries a dark view of heroes (i.e. Homelander is an arsehole, but a well-written arsehole). The series successfully showed abuse of power and brought in those discussions of political and physical power. The nuance added a lot of complications and danger to challenge the ideal of heroes you typically see as children making it a great space for adults to explore these themes. Whilst, the most powerful character is more of a villain, I have included it here as it is close to the discussions of “heroes and villains”. Of course, it still does the flashy battle-power-dance at the end, but the theme heightens the story. Providing how powerful characters add to discussions, not just action sequences.
Now, I have brought up the moral weight of power, the characters can be bad or good, let’s talk about Lucifer Morningstar. The devil. The specific version from the DC comics. Being the son of God does tend to lead to power, but unlike Superman, he doesn’t use his power for all-mighty goodness. Yet he isn’t a villain like Homelander. The titular character exists in shades of grey.
Enter the interesting character dynamic. A character who acts for his own self-interest. It can lead to caring or reckless decisions. It allows for broader topics of human nature to be discussed and adds more intrigue to the audience as we question what is Lucifer going to do next? What motivates his decisions? Childhood? Love? Which one is most powerful? Where is the line of going too far with his actions? There is something human in this exploration as we see a character who captures a complex web of behaviour that feels more real and intriguing than characters on a set path. The power behind this character only raises the stakes which is certainly more intriguing, more risky.
strengths of all-powerful characters
- grand, cinematic displays of power, most likely with a snide remark
- inspires questions about what to do with power which can lead to strong themes and discussions
- emotional reasoning and weaknesses can be heavily explored
weaknesses of all-powerful characters
- they need a weakness, even if an easily defeated or one that pales in comparison to their power
- defeats can be unnecessarily dragged out for style points
- unattainable skills can only provide so much for the story
- powerful characters can be used for showy reasons, ignoring the dangerous reality of what powerful people can be like
At least they make good villains, right?
All-powerful characters suit the villain role. You want a challenge in your story. Follow the characters who have to defeat them.
When talking about power, my mind immediately shifted to Tolkien’s universe. He had a few characters that embodied mass amounts of power. This makes sense when you consider the villain they had to defeat and the scope of his world. He had multiple different civilisations that were affected by Sauron, the main antagonist, therefore it was well-considered for the various species to showcase different strengths and power. In fact, it was required to make it realistic for them to challenge Sauron and his might.
Sauron wanted world domination. One of those types, eh? All the mass amounts of power from the various moving parts made for an epic, intense story. One of the most well-known and celebrated fantasy stories. Sauron made for a dark, formidable enemy that believably got everyone’s attention. It wasn’t straightforward, the defeat wasn’t simple and took years to achieve. Tolkien added many aspects to highlight the “defeat the evil” plotline, proving it doesn’t have to be unimaginative to take this road. Did the magnitude of villainy make the books as strong as they were? Should every book seek to have a great villain such as him?
Ultimately Sauron brought communities together to defeat evil. It wasn’t a one-on-one battle and this expansive nature made the story what it was. To have a plot like this, you need a villain who is extremely powerful to justify the struggle. Even if it is ultimately a power contest, it shows how craft can make it so much more. It is important to note that a strength of “The Lord of the Rings” was not relying on powerful characters to tell their story, in fact, the heart of the story were the little guys. It almost seems backwards to do this but it wouldn’t be the same story without its specific outlook. It makes for a more harrowing, heartfelt story that people could connect to more easily (whilst not sacrificing those big displays). This is not to be forgotten as we discuss powerful characters.
Another villain who possesses the most power in their world is The Darkling from Shadow and Bone. He can control the creatures haunting the land and seeks to overthrow the rulers. Unlike Sauron, he represents more than cruel intentions. He is using his power for a cause he believes is just. In fact, at first, he isn’t presented as the villain. I appreciated the thought that went into his character, the reasons for his goals and an intriguing tie to the main character, Alina. It made for riveting storytelling with enough danger and heart to grip readers. Yet there was no denying his capability for cruelness and you see these moments slip out to create a haunting villain. His restraint and showcase of power equally had an impact on the story.
These nuances eventually boil down to a power content between The Darkling and Alina. Dark versus light, how poetic. Yet the care that went into the journey beforehand made the final showdown more emotional and dangerous. Explore the villain’s emotional weaknesses and the hero’s desire. Even with certain elements of commonality in the story, I appreciated how it used other characters to challenge one another.
Finally, I have to mention vampires. They are essentially Superman with a different diet. Vampires are incredibly powerful and centred in stories with defenceless humans. They are compelling antagonists and the lore has restraints to even the playing field. Writers can create haunting, memorable villains or imagine the lives/struggles of being a vampire. What We Do In The Shadows is a sitcom about the lives of ancient vampires in modern society. It easily shows creatures capable of intense power and struggles/weaknesses. Sometimes something silly, like not understanding the internet, but it still demonstrates struggles and emotional moments of the price of being a vampire.
To focus on vampires as villains again, I want to mention Dracula in A Dowry of Blood. He is the antagonist who uses his power to control his brides. Whilst he is a physically powerful creature, the story focuses on emotional abuse as well. A power everyone is cruelly capable of which brings forth a very human layer to the supernatural tale. It talks about defeating his evil and the trauma of enduring him.
This emotional layer to the story and discussions of power ensured it wasn’t just about a tantalising villain, but the cost of using power against another person. The abuse of power can be linked to physicality and this book haunted you with what he was able to do with body and mind. This book was able to show you the horror openly. It is a story that will stay with you because of this fact. I appreciate the truth and inclusion of power within this story because it has something important to say about it.
strengths of all-powerful characters
- grand, cinematic displays of power, most likely with a snide remark
- inspires questions about what to do with power which can lead to strong themes and discussions
- emotional reasoning and weaknesses can be heavily explored
- a great villain brings people together to overcome it
- to experience the most powerful villain being defeated is satisfying, with high stakes, especially if following a relatable hero
- powerful villains can have a strong connection to the hero to make for a complicated journey
- effective story-telling can use powerful characters to discuss the abuse of power in our own society
weaknesses of all-powerful characters
- they need a weakness, even if an easily defeated or one that pales in comparison to their power
- defeats can be unnecessarily dragged out for style points
- unattainable skills can only provide so much for the story
- powerful characters can be used for showy reasons, ignoring the dangerous reality of what powerful people can be like
- power contests for the resolution can seem simplistic
- you know the ending of them before they have happened
- “The Little Guys” creates a more heartfelt, compelling journey than any powerhouse (but you can have both)
Perhaps a cracking side piece is best…
We’ve talked about what happens when powerful characters are protagonists and antagonists, but what about when they are simply in the background as a vague helping hand. In this situation, the story isn’t swallowed up by their displays of power but readers still get the highlight of their character traits. Could this be the best of both worlds?
You could have… the wise teacher? The guardian angel? The lion voiced by Liam Neeson resembling the Christian god?
Aslan from Narnia is the most powerful being in Narnia and oversees everything as the powerful guardian to all. But he is not the main character, instead, the Pensieve children are our heroes. It is one of those cases where the main characters are new to the world so it makes sense for there to be beings more capable, or well-educated, than themselves. Instead, they learn from them whilst creating their own adventure. A subtle message, eh?
In plots with this set-up, sometimes you wonder why the most powerful don’t take more of an active role. After all, they would succeed easily. Normally the answer lies in it was someone else’s destiny, they were doing some important background work, they are suffering and need help etc. Basically, the hero can’t get a “get out of jail” card all the time so the author made sure there was a reason. However, in situations with such high stakes, I question whether these reasons are strong enough for the most powerful characters to be on side quests (or drinking tea), sometimes they are and sometimes they aren’t. It isn’t my favourite version of this trope, but it can be done well.
Speaking of omnipotent figures, I will briefly mention a more direct god figure in storytelling. Mythology around the world includes deities in their stories. Unfortunately, I don’t know enough about them except for my little foray into Greek. Their stories and legends often included mortals and the Greek gods. The gods and goddesses act for various reasons in different stories, such as jealousy, protection or revenge. The gods’ emotional reactions affected mortals’ journeys, but it was for the gods’ own agenda meaning the stories weren’t straight-forward but forever altered by fickle emotions. These stories escaped the need for the most powerful characters to save the day because it wasn’t what the story was about to begin with. Divine Might by Natalie Haynes looked at the goddesses’ involvement in stories and the variety of reasons why they acted. Once again, this shows how power and emotional complexities can work hand-in-hand to create memorable, epic tales.
strengths of all-powerful characters
- grand, cinematic displays of power, most likely with a snide remark
- inspires questions about what to do with power which can lead to strong themes and discussions
- emotional reasoning and weaknesses can be heavily explored
- a great villain brings people together to overcome it
- to experience the most powerful villain being defeated is satisfying, with high stakes, especially if following a relatable hero
- powerful villains can have a strong connection to the hero to make for a complicated journey
- effective story-telling can use powerful characters to discuss the abuse of power in our own society
- powerful side characters can aid the main character’s journey without taking away the honest hardships
- learning wisdom from a powerful side character is realistic as knowledge should be gained
weaknesses of all-powerful characters
- they need a weakness, even if an easily defeated or one that pales in comparison to their power
- defeats can be unnecessarily dragged out for style points
- unattainable skills can only provide so much for the story
- powerful characters can be used for showy reasons, ignoring the dangerous reality of what powerful people can be like
- power contests for the resolution can seem simplistic
- you know the ending of them before they have happened
- “The Little Guys” creates a more heartfelt, compelling journey than any powerhouse (but you can have both)
- not a good enough reason why the most powerful character is on a bender (not a fan of cheap reasons)
I hope I demonstrated that all-powerful characters can be imperfect as a literary factor, with many strengths and weaknesses. Their restrictions of being too powerful can take away from the storytelling, yet I am still partial to them. The powerful characters I have discussed have added to their stories. I enjoy how they test the writers to make it work in a new and intriguing manner. Often leading to new layers in the story-telling. Perhaps the most obvious no can lead to the most interesting yes.*
*whatever you do with my words, please do not take this notion as dating advice.
Love a powerhouse 💪🏼🩷 & love this post!
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They are snazzy! Thank youuu 🥰❤️
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Is it weird that the first character example that I could think of is Celaena from Throne Of Glass and not a God 😂🙈 I always want to read books featuring them but I guess it’s just due to the fact that they generally play more of a side role if they do feature 😅 although she does have weaknesses to be fair. I feel like Feyre is closer to all powerful really. She has weaknesses sure but she seems to master her powers so swiftly.
Ooh are you planning a post about politically powerful characters too? When you mentioned them Cersei and her manipulations came to mind. That level of scheming is always intriguing.
You’ve made a lot of good points about the pros and cons of all powerful characters. My initial thought would be that I love them but on reflection, after reading this post, I feel like I’d prefer highly powerful characters. Someone whose formidable and more powerful than most people but not up to Superman levels where they can face next to anything without batting an eyelash. Or an all powerful being on both sides, then the devastation could be sky high.
I had no idea that Lucifer was a DC character. Guess that shows that my comic novel is pretty bad 😂 and I haven’t seen The Boys but the concept of heroes that can be more villainous is an intriguing one.
Following the ‘little people’ is fun and tends to really up the stakes when it comes to obstacles. I also think it’s good that the Darklings motivations were more complicated than purely being evil. He’s a good example of how perspective can affect things.
I love your ‘Superman with a different diet ‘ comment 😂 its quite accurate though. Although I feel like vampires have a bit more balance on the whole with a few more weaknesses. Although perhaps not when compared to the average person. The most powerful of vampires can make the average one look weak in some series so humans stand no chance.
Ooh the whole abuse of power and emotional control thing really makes me want to check A Dowry Of Blood out. Naturally it was already on my TBR but I’m going to have to move it up I think. I’ll look into if the library has it.
It is interesting how a good powerful hero or villian can make you think about the effect that power can have on a person. Particularly with villians or morally gray characters I’d say. If someone gradually turns corrupt through their power it can be fascinating to watch and cause a lot of reflection.
Having some focus on all powerful characters personal lives can be eye opening too. As no level of pure power can negate emotional hardship sometimes.
Having an all powerful character as a mentor can be good if done well. You’re right that you need a good reason for them not to act themselves though. Maybe something like being trapped in an other realm and only being able to advise through visions/dreams kind of thing. Or something like the Dumbledore/Grindlepact Unbreakable Vow.
Gods always fascinate me but I think more books need them in a more active role. Although the way they interfer in human lives can be fascinating. The example that immediately comes to mind for me is Hera and Hercules, especially as he’s meant to be an all powerful hero himself yet does some terrible things too.
Also as a final point I think I prefer all powerful Villains over heroes as I can see it being boring if the hero is so obviously and easily going to win. But a villian like that can bring people together like you said and tends to lead to a high stakes plot. Its just important that the end result is done well as its so frustrating when a final conflict is easily maneuvered in the end.
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Haha that’s funny, but you wouldn’t want to fight her! Gods are often side characters, you rarely see them too closely!
I can’t remember Feyre too much tbh except that she frustrated me so I will trust your word for that! 🙈
No, sorry 😅, I don’t have a post about politically powerful characters but if I did, Cersei would be on the list for sure.
Thank you 🥰 that’s a good point to note so you don’t go all the way to the extreme, do you see the highly powerful characters having more powerful people in the world to ensure they are the all-powerful of that world then??
Both sides is a good way to balance the scales!
Haha I think part of the DC publishing company, not sure as part of the DC superhero universe though. Neil Gaiman was part of the team who wrote Lucifer I believe.
The Boys is very dark but a great show for villains.
Those are two tropes that show the importance of nuanced layers!
Haha thank you, that’s kinda some truth in it, right?! 😂 I feel like tradition vampires had more weaknesses, I see less included in modern day interpretations and the addition of hynopsis is a tricky power to overcome. That’s a good point, I forgot to consider the different levels of vampires. The hierarchy has varying levels of power which adds more compared to the solitary superman.
A Dowry of Blood provides a deep look into abusive relationships which involves different kinds of power I believe. I hope you end up enjoying it now I’ve spoken about it so much!
The morality alongside power can be such an interesting discussion, especially as access to power can bring out the worst in them as what they can do overcomes the “should I do this”. The gradual fall would be an experience.
Definitely, no weapons against emotions!
I think the mentor role can be done well in the right circumstances, the trapped reason would bring in more stakes. I like that, for sure, or a binding agreement would be fascinating.
I would be curious to experience gods will a more central role in stories too. I need to read more about Hera and Hercules, but you are right how Hercules is very flawed which adds the complexity to thr story.
The powerful villain does make for more tension and curiousity to have the heroes can possibly win. The end maneuver can be given too easily, but hopefully we find more that deliver the “wow” ending!
Thank you for reading and commenting ❤️❤️
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I blame the fact that she kind of fits both boxes as her brain is always scheming too 😂
To be fair you read them years ago, I read them at the end of last year and start of this one 😂
I just wondered as I know how those dynamics intrigue you.
I suppose there could be people more powerful than them, they’d need a reason not to simply stop them in that case though. 🤔
Ah right, is it a fairly recent one then? Tbh I used to love Sabrina and didn’t even know that came from a comic until the new one released 😂
You’re right, they do seem to show those weaknesses less now. I like how they involve the hypnosis and sunlight elements in TVD. That has a great example of that hierarchy too actually. I really need to rewatch it soon.
I’ll keep my fingers crossed. It is in my library so if its in stock when I go in a couple of weeks I’ll pick it up and let you know how I find it.
It can be really interesting to watch how it changes someone like that. I guess with nothing to limit them some characters get really corrupt over time.
Yes definitely, it’s an intriguing dynamic to watch after all. You just need a believable reason for them not simply saving the day.
Tbh I didn’t know about either too greatly until I read Herc last year then Hera this one. Both are fantastic and really eye opening.
I love villians so it’s not surprising that I feel that way 😂 but they have so much potential. And yes, fingers crossed that we find lots of well developed endings.
Thank you for the fantastic post ❤️❤️
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Haha fair enough 😂 Very true!
I do love politically powerful character, I can’t think of any cons for those characters, it would just be gushing. Although not every one is well written so you could try a discuss how to write them well, but I’m not sure I have the authority or skill to write that… yet. 😉
Yes, I think all these powerful characters need compelling reason as to why they don’t dominate every event and it can be tricky to find a believable reason.
It must be, I’m not 100% ~~ I just know the show! 😅 haha I don’t associate Sabrina with a comic either!
Ohh that’s all very intriguing for the vampire diaries, another reason why I should watch it!
oohh yay, thank you!
Yes, when you excuse one thing it often sets a chain reaction as things you are willing to do.
Definitely!
That’s wonderful, I must read them!
haha, I wasn’t surprised either! 😂 Indeed!
Aw… thank you ❤️🥹❤️
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Ooh I’m guessing that means there’s at least one in your book 😍 and I guess you could always gush about your favourites in an effort to make everyone pick them up 😂
I suppose that is the major problem with all powerful characters, making them struggle in a believable manner.
I think I knew the new one was going into it but then discovered the original came from one too 😂
Yes definitely. They have an intriguing origin story too
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Well I will try 😂 true, a chance to scream about my favourites 😁
Definitely!
Ahh… What a surprise, they are old comics then!
Absolutely!
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I like the way you talk about the positive dimensions of such characters beyond “it’s a fight and I win”. Both in terms of offering a pleasant escape from the real world, and also the internal dramas present in such characters. Just because a character wins every battle doesn’t mean they win at life in general.
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Thank you, I wanted to have a chance to think of these characters a bit more deeply than you might typically do!
Absolutely, these characters have just as many problems and concerns in their personal lives that power can’t solve… Their story can offer a lot (and the escape, ofc) 😁
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My first reaction was that I don’t enjoy the all-powerful character but then you called me out for my love for Smallville, so I guess I have to reevaluate 😄 Kryptonite is annoying! Seriously, what’s up with all the different colors?? But you’re right that it was the more emotional struggles that made Clark a great and interesting character. I like how his powers are used to explore different scenarios that ordinary humans wouldn’t be in, yet it is still relatable.
What made me think I didn’t like these characters was probably that I had that Sauron image in my head. Maybe it’s a thing of more classic fantasy but the all-powerful villain was often hidden away until the very last action scene with the big culmination. That’s what I don’t like (same with Aslan). I think the strength of these characters is the struggles and flaws they have despite all those powers like you say, so they actually need to have a voice in the story.
I also liked how you described The Darkling. I generally like it when the villain has a strong connection to the hero because it’s usually a really effective way to develop both characters. Making them pretty much equally strong means exploring ways they are otherwise different and that’s the juicy part 🤗
Finally, I only just recently watched all seasons of The Boys and I love that you included it because that is such a twist on that type of character. Even if you aren’t talking about political power in this post, this is still an example of characters who have both physical and political power so they are gods basically. Because it’s set in a very real-looking world, I think it’s a great way to make people think, even if it’s also scary. Like, centuries of therapy for Homelander will not be enough 😬
Anyway, this is a really interesting post and I’m loving the overview of the pros and cons! 🥰
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haha Smallville to the rescue and I’m so glad to find another fan of the show. I loved it when I was younger and I honestly think I would happily rewatch it many times! But yep, Kryptonite gets everywhere and sometimes you just want to scream “why”. You could make a rainbow out of them at this point 😅 It was definitely the emotions that gave the show its heart, it was able to provide a balance of the extraordinary and relatability quite well so I certainly agree with you!
I think it is fair to initially steer away from these characters because they can just be used for simple power showdowns with no further thought. I never actually considered how fantasy books would keep the all-powerful ones hidden until the end, or how the characters simply had no voice. They were used only for action which doesn’t give the audience a lot to gain from their scenes. It is important for these characters to have more to them!
Villains having a close tie to the hero is always an entertaining trope. I love it when the two have a reason to interact other than being on opposite sides! Having the equal power levels is handy for exploring that side of things and I will remember that when thinking of power now, ty 😄
It took me a while to get into the characters of The Boys as I found the genuine nice/good side hard to follow at times, but I always loved the idea of this take on superheroes, I feel like it is such a necessary version because of the golden age of marvel, and it is more entertaining so yay! The combination of physical and political power is extreme and you rarely get to see both, and it did increase the danger and complexities of the storytelling. I think you can apply it to real life which is scary. So true about Homelander, eek!
Thank you so much ❤️ and thank you for reading and commenting! 🥰
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This is such a well thought out post!
So I usually don’t like all powerful characters unless we see their strength bulit up over the course of time. Even then, yeah they need to have some sort of emotional weakness or something that can you know lead to them being defeated in some conditions.
I do agree though, all powerful characters make great villains! It’s even more interesting to crack how to defeat them and launch an attack on them with collective strength and wisdom.
Hmm, can’t say I’ve encountered a lot of all powerful side characters but I agree, they’re usually annoying. For example, I think Dumbledore van be classified as one and it’s so annoying how he doesn’t step in to do shit but gives advice and watches from the sidelines!
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Thank youuu Charvi 🥰✨all powerful characters can be imperfect or poorly written, but now you’ve said it having the power build up over time is engaging ~~ I know in smallville, Clark had to deal with discovering new powers which was fascinating.
The nuance of these characters definitely make them better, as with all characters really!
Thinking of the attack against all powerful villains can be intriguing and you often think how is this possible. It makes for an epic finale in the best way!
Oh yeah Dumbledore works for that example and I always found him very annoying too. Like always leaving it to the 12 year old, why?!?!
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Here I am, responding to this days after I first read it once again 😅🙈 In my defense, I absolutely adored this post because it really made me think about my own strong character preferences in fantasy, and figured I needed quite a chunk of time to order my thoughts and respond properly… And here we are, with me still having absolutely no order to my thoughts, but responding anyway because I this is seriously getting embarrassing at this point 😂😂🙈
Anyway, I thought you brought up lots of really interesting points! First off, I 100% agree with a physically strong protagonist needing flaws to balance that strength. Unfortunately, lots of popular books that attempt this trope – like Throne of Glass, Red Rising, Shades of Magic, and even the Grisha trilogy, to some extent – don’t really do this enough for my tastes. Combined with the fact that several authors apparently have yet to realize that emotional vulnerability and strength do not contradict each other – I always love when a character feeling like they are apart from everyone else gets explored, like you describe about Superman – and I tend to be pretty wary of the whole “physically strong hero” trope 😅
However, even though I claim to also want to see that complexity in villains, I totally always fall for the ones who have next to no personality except being an evil force that scares everyone shitless anyway 😂 Sauron is actually a prime example – I don’t even remember the guy so much as speaking, but I totally loved him as an evil force that brought everyone else together and spread fear. Same goes for Voldemort – sure, he has some backstory, but ultimately, him being evil and having tons of power is his defining characteristic.
I don’t think I’ve ever truly been a fan of the all-powerful sidekick, though. Sure, I love Aslan or Gandalf, too, but I think a lot of that might also be due to nostalgic attachment to books that really helped shape my childhood. Because, unfortunately, whenever these characters conveniently intervene, they usually DO take hardships away from the protagonists, giving sticky situations an easier and less satisfying conclusion by providing a deus-ex-machina solution that doesn’t build on any clues or character development that came before, OR they start opening plotholes because (like in the case of Gandalf) you start to wonder why these characters are able to help in certain situations, but not in others… So I don’t know – these types of scenarios often feel like the author just couldn’t think of a more organic way to get their characters where they want them to? Still, I do enjoy books with this trope as well, so I wouldn’t say it’s a dealbreaker. Especially when the mythology aspect is well done – like, I can kind of get behind Aslan because he’s mysterious enough to make me question whether he’s an all-powerful God or just a helpful magical creature and because he isn’t ALWAYS there to help. Similarly, I tend to love fantasy that has a strongly developed religious system, but you’re never really sure if the Gods are real or not. Like, there’ll be these strange prophetic dreams or almost supernatural events connected to some religious ceremony, but you can’t actually be sure whether there’s really an all-powerful being out there or people are interpreting mythological importants to naturally occuring events. That makes the characters’ dynamic with religion and close saves that MIGHT’VE been granted by Gods so much more interesting!
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Thank you so much for coming back to it, that’s so thoughtful 🤗 I feel behind on many things at the moment so it is actually comforting to hear too!
Thank you, I am happy to hear this post made you think as they are a very restrictive trope and can be badly written if only used for “showy” reasons.
Having no order to thoughts is perfect, I loving seeing how minds take a leap from one point to another 😁
Thank you, it is the flaws that make them memorable, otherwise they feel pretty lifeless. I have to admit I’m not a fan of the powerful characters in the series you’ve named either, grisha is only interesting for the close connection to the villain and backstory, but it wouldn’t be one I’d choose to reread.
You are so right about emotional vulnerability though and it is something I’d like to see improved. Strong characters do cry, to simplify the point.
Smallville did the lonely side really well in my opinion as you can see the father’s fears shape his relationship with other people.
I totally understand the wariness with this character trope though, it is easily poorly written but I’m addicted to finding the good ones 😂
Oohh that’s interesting and I can see where you are coming from to an extent… The presence of a villain can be all-consuming even without a backstory, you take notice to the way they dictate a room etc. Your two examples are definitely evidence of that!
The uniting people together is my favourite aspect of them!
The sidekick does seem the weaker choice because I don’t see a reason why they shouldn’t take more of a central role. They are often used for an easy out at the last second which is less satisfying. They make you question the plot more and I totally get childhood nostalgia making you overlook these aspects so you still get the same enjoyment out of them.
Mythology is my favourite examples of using gods in stories and I think having a pantheon of gods adds to the storytelling because then it isn’t necessarily one deciding the fate for all.
Worldbuilding with religious themes can be varied as featuring gods and no straight confirmation if real are two different reading experiences. It is great to see as a reader how authors handle writing them ~~ I agree how the unknown adds more to the main character’s journey and provides complexity to the storytelling too. I enjoy both, but I wouldn’t want to read about gods and all powerful creatures all the time!
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I think the issue for me with *physically* powerful characters, is that many modern narratives’ conceptions of such characters are deeply intertwined with ableist and misogynistic beliefs and/or are often filtered through an exclusionary Western idea of what it means to embody power and/or to have the responsibilities that come along with power. A good example of this is the “strong female character” archetype in fantasy . She is seen as powerful because she can “do anything a man can do,” but oftentimes that means rejecting/revoking traits that in the West are often seen as “traditionally feminine” such as being community-oriented, being social, considering her own and others’ emotional states, showing mercy etc. Another example is how the “physically powerful hero/villain” can often exclude characters of non-Western backgrounds, because in different cultures power is defined by different traits. Case in point: in Black American culture, our folktales often teach that it is more powerful to be clever than it is to be physically strong (see: B’rer Rabbit, Anansi, etc.)—even in the tale of John Henry The Steel-Driving Man, where John Henry completed outstanding feats of physical strength, his heart gave out in the end and he dies, but his wife (the less physically strong of the duo) takes up his hammer and finishes his job. I think a physically powerful character can be okay, but only if you consider biases such as the previous ones, and only if they’re written as 3D characters with flaws and nuance (cause who wants to read about an inhumanly perfect person lol)
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You are right how physically powerful characters enhance this flawed design on what it means to be powerful and only there to help one group of people which I have majorly overlooked in this post so thank you for pointing it out.
It is tiresome how women are constantly measured by their ability to do what men can do, even if I do feel I can motivate to strive for more from these characters at times, it is more of a band aid ignoring the wider problem of societal structure. Femininity is crushed out of almost every “respectable” area, with women in power opted to dress like a men and typically have short hair. Even if it seems small, it seems to point out how the attitude is so comfortably in every aspect of life.
The other side is in superheros comics, the oversexualisation of the women characters, like they were made for men.
The different measures of power is important and I love how different cultures has different ways to define it, because it is restrictive to view it one way. I enjoy the stories that capture how different characters have their own power.
I hope more voices in the book industry will add to these stories to change the cultural bias, ableist language and eradication of femininity. I hope it gets there or it should just disappear as there is enough of the other version now.
Avatar the last airbender book series I would like to read as I liked the show as it gave all the characters nuances. You’re right, who wants to read about perfect characters?!
Thank you so much for your comment ❤️
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I loved this Fantasy discussion and how you looked at different characters! ❤️ Even after all this time I still love The Darkling as a villain, his shadow powers are amazing and his dynamic with Alina was so intriguing! The fact that he doesn’t appear to be a villain and has a tragic backstory of his own really makes him such a good antagonist!
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Thank you so much 🥰 the dynamic between the darkling and Alina made the story more than good vs bad which I enjoyed.
I wish I read the book without knowing about the darkling being the villain beforehand as I think it would have changed my experience reading the first book, as it exploring his character without knowing he was the villain. As you say, such a great move ✨
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